Audio | J. Krishnamurti - London 1966 Interview - Dying is living and living is dying

Francis Watson interviews philosopher and educator Jiddu Krishnamurti, exploring his life, beliefs, and teachings.

Summary

  • Krishnamurti discusses his views on nationalities, organizations, the pursuit of truth, and the concepts of living and dying.
  • He delves into the ineffectiveness of organized religion, the importance of self-observation without judgment, and the possibility of living without fear.
  • Krishnamurti emphasizes the necessity of clarity and the act of observation over the act of will, and shares his ideas about life being intertwined with death.
  • The interview touches on Krishnamurti's past, including his association with the Theosophical Society and his renunciation of the role prepared for him as the world teacher.

Chapter 1

Introduction to Krishnamurti

0:01 - 3 min, 0 sec

Francis Watson introduces Jiddu Krishnamurti and sets the stage for the interview.

Francis Watson introduces Jiddu Krishnamurti and sets the stage for the interview.

  • The interview with Jiddu Krishnamurti was conducted by Francis Watson in a London broadcasting studio.
  • Krishnamurti is in his 71st year, and Watson reminisces about his youthful encounters with him.
  • Krishnamurti's history with the Theosophical Society and Dr. Annie Besant is recounted, highlighting his past expectations as a heralded teacher.

Chapter 2

Krishnamurti's Views on National Identity

3:00 - 4 min, 6 sec

Krishnamurti shares his perspective on national identities and their divisive nature.

Krishnamurti shares his perspective on national identities and their divisive nature.

  • He holds an Indian passport but does not identify as an Indian because he sees nationalities as divisions that breed antagonism and hatred.
  • Krishnamurti believes national pride is a form of seeking identity with something larger, which he considers a fundamental human desire.

Chapter 3

The Futility of Organizations in the Pursuit of Truth

7:06 - 3 min, 49 sec

Krishnamurti discusses the ineffectiveness of organizations for finding truth.

Krishnamurti discusses the ineffectiveness of organizations for finding truth.

  • He reflects on his past role as the head of a large organization, which he eventually dissolved.
  • Krishnamurti explains that organizations impede individual discovery and he advocates for personal inquiry without the influence of organized propaganda.

Chapter 4

The Role of Clarity in Human Transformation

10:55 - 4 min, 51 sec

Krishnamurti emphasizes the importance of clarity for personal and societal change.

Krishnamurti emphasizes the importance of clarity for personal and societal change.

  • He believes that clarity, not faith or skepticism, allows people to examine life and society critically.
  • Krishnamurti stresses the significance of observing without condemnation, justification, or desire to change one's observations.

Chapter 5

Living and Dying as Interconnected Realities

15:46 - 16 min, 5 sec

Krishnamurti delves into the concepts of living and dying, and their interconnectedness.

Krishnamurti delves into the concepts of living and dying, and their interconnectedness.

  • He explains that living in the present, without the burdens of past traditions and fears, inherently involves the concept of dying to those things daily.
  • Krishnamurti sees clarity and the act of observation as key to understanding and embracing the relationship between life and death.

Chapter 6

Conclusion and Krishnamurti's Impact

31:51 - 11 sec

The interview concludes with a reflection on Krishnamurti's impact and legacy.

The interview concludes with a reflection on Krishnamurti's impact and legacy.

  • Krishnamurti's views on fear, faith, and the necessity of self-observation are reiterated.
  • The interview highlights the enduring relevance of Krishnamurti's teachings and his influence on individuals seeking truth beyond organized beliefs.

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