David Rusenko - How To Find Product Market Fit
Y Combinator
58 min, 37 sec
David Rusenko, founder of Weebly, shares the journey of how Weebly found product-market fit and offers practical advice for startups seeking the same.
Summary
- David Rusenko details Weebly's early days, the challenges faced, and the strategies employed to achieve product-market fit.
- He emphasizes the importance of listening to customers' problems, not their solutions, and the necessity of rapid prototyping and user testing.
- Rusenko discusses the critical metrics for measuring product-market fit: returning usage, Net Promoter Score (NPS), and paying customer renewal rates.
- The talk covers the need for startups to be flexible in their approach, optimize for learning, and the importance of building a remarkable (not just viable) product.
- Rusenko advises startups not to scale their team beyond 20 people until product-market fit is achieved, and once it is, to scale aggressively.
Chapter 1
![David Rusenko introduces his background and the early days of Weebly, an easy-to-use website builder.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MjUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--d15cd92d6fe2fc9465dbfd1cd807b90967fbacc1/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_45.jpg)
David Rusenko introduces his background and the early days of Weebly, an easy-to-use website builder.
- David Rusenko, founder of Weebly, begins his talk by acknowledging the full room post-Burning Man.
- He introduces Weebly as a tool that allowed entrepreneurs to create websites and online stores without needing to code.
- Weebly started in 2006, grew to 50 million users, 350 employees, and was sold to Square for $365 million.
![David Rusenko introduces his background and the early days of Weebly, an easy-to-use website builder.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MjUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--d15cd92d6fe2fc9465dbfd1cd807b90967fbacc1/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_45.jpg)
Chapter 2
![David Rusenko shares insights on the practical aspects of finding product-market fit for startups.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MjksInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--7788e6f50e798561f58f2d1a95bf10ce244693ae/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_130.jpg)
David Rusenko shares insights on the practical aspects of finding product-market fit for startups.
- Product-market fit is identified as the top problem for startups, and Rusenko emphasizes practicality over theory in achieving it.
- He previews Weebly's journey, highlighting the importance of hustle and persistence in the early stages.
- Rusenko provides a detailed recount of Weebly's user growth and the challenges faced before reaching product-market fit.
![David Rusenko shares insights on the practical aspects of finding product-market fit for startups.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MjksInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--7788e6f50e798561f58f2d1a95bf10ce244693ae/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_130.jpg)
Chapter 3
![Rusenko discusses Weebly's user growth, early challenges, and the decision to apply to Y Combinator.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MzMsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--45154bbcb704c56d2ca0d49397ca744c6967e431/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_205.jpg)
Rusenko discusses Weebly's user growth, early challenges, and the decision to apply to Y Combinator.
- The initial user growth was slow, with few sign-ups and the challenge of not having launched the product after months of development.
- Rusenko recounts the story of applying to Y Combinator last minute and deciding to drop out of school to move to San Francisco.
- He talks about the significance of press coverage and how it influenced user sign-ups, although it was not indicative of product-market fit.
![Rusenko discusses Weebly's user growth, early challenges, and the decision to apply to Y Combinator.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MzMsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--45154bbcb704c56d2ca0d49397ca744c6967e431/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_205.jpg)
Chapter 4
![A look into the moment Weebly began to see real traction and the signs that product-market fit was achieved.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MzcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--065874e4f6a7f4d69093d1f3cb717add35c449da/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_279.jpg)
A look into the moment Weebly began to see real traction and the signs that product-market fit was achieved.
- Despite coverage in major publications, Weebly's user growth was declining, indicating a lack of product-market fit.
- Rusenko explains how the trend reversed suddenly, with user sign-ups increasing significantly without press influence.
- He shares a graph showing Weebly's new user sign-ups per day, highlighting the point of traction.
![A look into the moment Weebly began to see real traction and the signs that product-market fit was achieved.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4MzcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--065874e4f6a7f4d69093d1f3cb717add35c449da/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_279.jpg)
Chapter 5
![Rusenko provides a definition of product-market fit and outlines the stages of a company from idea to growth.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NDUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--7f54bf6dcec9f385bc9304ba5218c384e94a433d/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_354.jpg)
Rusenko provides a definition of product-market fit and outlines the stages of a company from idea to growth.
- Product-market fit is about making something a lot of people want, which Rusenko suggests modifying Y Combinator's mantra to include.
- He details the stages of a company, including the idea, prototype, launch, traction, monetization, and growth phases.
- The talk emphasizes that finding product-market fit is the hardest part of these stages and continues to be refined even after achieving initial fit.
![Rusenko provides a definition of product-market fit and outlines the stages of a company from idea to growth.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NDUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--7f54bf6dcec9f385bc9304ba5218c384e94a433d/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_354.jpg)
Chapter 6
![Rusenko identifies the two most difficult challenges faced by startups: finding product-market fit and building a world-class team.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NTUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--d168df1c5d00ed01ca0dd7051db2bbe3742b3638/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_430.jpg)
Rusenko identifies the two most difficult challenges faced by startups: finding product-market fit and building a world-class team.
- Finding product-market fit is incredibly challenging and is the primary reason most companies fail.
- Building a world-class team is also difficult and unintuitive, with hiring being the second hardest challenge.
- Making money is considered a distant third challenge, as it's easier to figure out once you have a product that people want.
![Rusenko identifies the two most difficult challenges faced by startups: finding product-market fit and building a world-class team.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NTUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--d168df1c5d00ed01ca0dd7051db2bbe3742b3638/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_430.jpg)
Chapter 7
![An in-depth look at the practical steps startups should take to achieve product-market fit, including rapid prototyping and user testing.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NjEsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--a3982078ae6de93c8d28cf364eb8aee5bae7e494/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_505.jpg)
An in-depth look at the practical steps startups should take to achieve product-market fit, including rapid prototyping and user testing.
- Rusenko advises startups to talk to customers, develop a market thesis, and rapidly prototype to test solutions.
- He stresses the importance of not overthinking and using simple tools like customer interviews, UX testing sessions, and metrics to guide development.
- The talk emphasizes the need for multiple iterations, keeping the burn rate low, and building a quick, iterative team.
![An in-depth look at the practical steps startups should take to achieve product-market fit, including rapid prototyping and user testing.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NjEsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--a3982078ae6de93c8d28cf364eb8aee5bae7e494/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_505.jpg)
Chapter 8
![Rusenko discusses the right time to launch a product and how startups should prioritize their development efforts.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NjUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--bca0814f41216adef769c1751625fb38bfc91516/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_565.jpg)
Rusenko discusses the right time to launch a product and how startups should prioritize their development efforts.
- Launch when the product is better than existing alternatives, which doesn't necessarily mean it has more features but rather it performs one job exceptionally well.
- Prioritizing should be done with a focus on learning the most, identifying the biggest unknowns, and not getting caught up in feature checklists.
- Metrics like returning usage, NPS, and paying customer renewal rates are key indicators for knowing when product-market fit is achieved.
![Rusenko discusses the right time to launch a product and how startups should prioritize their development efforts.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NjUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--bca0814f41216adef769c1751625fb38bfc91516/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_565.jpg)
Chapter 9
![Additional insights on what to do after finding product-market fit, including scaling the team and building a brand.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NzEsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--0e85b4a4baf5a5f6adf2cd1cb46c6c576c739a83/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_616.jpg)
Additional insights on what to do after finding product-market fit, including scaling the team and building a brand.
- Rusenko advises to keep the team small until product-market fit is achieved and then scaling aggressively once fit is confirmed.
- He talks about the importance of building a brand around a fundamental consumer insight that is aligned with the product's core value proposition.
- Rusenko shares Virgin America's branding strategy as an example of building a brand that focuses on customer experience.
![Additional insights on what to do after finding product-market fit, including scaling the team and building a brand.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4NzEsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--0e85b4a4baf5a5f6adf2cd1cb46c6c576c739a83/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_616.jpg)
Chapter 10
![Rusenko answers audience questions on various topics related to finding product-market fit and growing a startup.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4ODcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--db733f42b275dc34b7e74ceaa69d4d43796a6feb/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_2074.jpg)
Rusenko answers audience questions on various topics related to finding product-market fit and growing a startup.
- He addresses questions about motivation during the product-market fit search, dealing with demographic splits between purchasers and users, and when to start fundraising.
- Rusenko also explains the concept of discontinuous improvement and the significance of focusing on customer needs over competitor features.
- He concludes with advice on pricing strategies, understanding when to launch, and the importance of education in the user acquisition process.
![Rusenko answers audience questions on various topics related to finding product-market fit and growing a startup.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6Mjc4ODcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--db733f42b275dc34b7e74ceaa69d4d43796a6feb/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/1996_2074.jpg)
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