The First Five Hires Of This $10 Billion Business
Y Combinator
12 min, 14 sec
Anu Hariharan interviews Tomer London, co-founder and CPO of Gusto, discussing the company's first hires and the establishment of its culture.
Summary
- Tomer London shares experiences hiring the first five team members at Gusto, emphasizing the importance of growth mindset and cultural fit.
- Gusto's first hire was a designer who brought a user-centric approach and willingness to work beyond traditional role boundaries.
- The second hire, a software engineer, contributed significantly to the development methodology, including pair programming practices.
- The third hire added deep experience in taxes and payroll, important for Gusto's compliance and product advice.
- Subsequent hires were also engineers, sourced from Hacker News, who continued to shape Gusto's growth-oriented and collaborative culture.
Chapter 1
![Anu Hariharan introduces herself and her guest, Tomer London, discussing his background and Gusto's origins.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NDcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--a11ed721791350e65adb8b2d1a2e6957f0a281d9/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_20.jpg)
Anu Hariharan introduces herself and her guest, Tomer London, discussing his background and Gusto's origins.
- Anu Hariharan is a managing director at Y Combinator working with growth stage companies.
- Tomer London, co-founder and CPO of Gusto, joins the conversation.
- Gusto, part of Y Combinator's Winter 2012 cohort, provides businesses with HR solutions and has grown to over 2000 employees.
![Anu Hariharan introduces herself and her guest, Tomer London, discussing his background and Gusto's origins.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NDcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--a11ed721791350e65adb8b2d1a2e6957f0a281d9/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_20.jpg)
Chapter 2
![Tomer London discusses the first hire at Gusto, a designer named Davey, and his vital role in shaping the product's user experience.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NTMsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--6e4ee960aae6425df367afdf09d64063090938ab/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_83.jpg)
Tomer London discusses the first hire at Gusto, a designer named Davey, and his vital role in shaping the product's user experience.
- Davey, the first non-founding team member, was crucial for developing a great user experience, a key differentiator for Gusto.
- He possessed a full-stack mentality, willing to go beyond traditional design responsibilities, setting a precedent for future hires.
![Tomer London discusses the first hire at Gusto, a designer named Davey, and his vital role in shaping the product's user experience.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NTMsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--6e4ee960aae6425df367afdf09d64063090938ab/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_83.jpg)
Chapter 3
![The second hire was a software engineer named Steven who significantly influenced Gusto's software development practices.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NTUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--0a61543f97ee697d8cc8243cf8b375bcdc0749a0/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_164.jpg)
The second hire was a software engineer named Steven who significantly influenced Gusto's software development practices.
- Steven's skill set included coding, problem-solving, and developing a methodology for building software.
- He was a proponent of pair programming, which became an integral part of Gusto's engineering culture.
![The second hire was a software engineer named Steven who significantly influenced Gusto's software development practices.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NTUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--0a61543f97ee697d8cc8243cf8b375bcdc0749a0/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_164.jpg)
Chapter 4
![The third hire added much-needed tax and payroll expertise to the Gusto team, filling a gap in the founding team's skill set.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NTcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--96a172f85e057089358c8d4b95e7bed5eb72b187/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_293.jpg)
The third hire added much-needed tax and payroll expertise to the Gusto team, filling a gap in the founding team's skill set.
- Steven, the third hire, had decades of experience in taxes and payroll, complementing the technical team.
- He moved from Minnesota to California, embracing Gusto's culture and contributing to compliance, product decisions, and customer care.
![The third hire added much-needed tax and payroll expertise to the Gusto team, filling a gap in the founding team's skill set.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NTcsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--96a172f85e057089358c8d4b95e7bed5eb72b187/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_293.jpg)
Chapter 5
![Subsequent hires were engineers who contributed to Gusto's diverse skill set and embodied the company's focus on growth mindset.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NjEsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--81642bdcbf2dfdea2255fbdf47a46af184258b59/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_469.jpg)
Subsequent hires were engineers who contributed to Gusto's diverse skill set and embodied the company's focus on growth mindset.
- Engineers were hired through Hacker News posts, focusing on technical skills and a growth-oriented mindset.
- Creating a great workplace was a priority, reflected in the hiring process and the company's mission.
![Subsequent hires were engineers who contributed to Gusto's diverse skill set and embodied the company's focus on growth mindset.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NjEsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--81642bdcbf2dfdea2255fbdf47a46af184258b59/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_469.jpg)
Chapter 6
![Tomer London explains how Gusto's unique no-shoes policy and emphasis on a home-like environment became a core part of its culture.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NjUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--f11c2f0c727637fe24b9fcf426dd60060b767e84/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_627.jpg)
Tomer London explains how Gusto's unique no-shoes policy and emphasis on a home-like environment became a core part of its culture.
- Gusto's no-shoes policy started in the founders' home and continued as the company grew, contributing to a familial company culture.
- Colorful, branded socks became a fun part of Gusto's identity, symbolizing the company's relaxed and welcoming atmosphere.
![Tomer London explains how Gusto's unique no-shoes policy and emphasis on a home-like environment became a core part of its culture.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NjUsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--f11c2f0c727637fe24b9fcf426dd60060b767e84/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_627.jpg)
Chapter 7
![Anu thanks Tomer for his insights and extends an invitation to listeners to join Gusto or explore other startup opportunities.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NzAsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--f444d614c3e0941b879a6ff4e143d2503839e486/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_717.jpg)
Anu thanks Tomer for his insights and extends an invitation to listeners to join Gusto or explore other startup opportunities.
- Anu Hariharan concludes the interview by thanking Tomer London for sharing his experiences.
- Listeners are encouraged to apply for roles at Gusto or explore the Y Combinator job board for opportunities at startups.
![Anu thanks Tomer for his insights and extends an invitation to listeners to join Gusto or explore other startup opportunities.](https://www.videogist.co/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6NjI4NzAsInB1ciI6ImJsb2JfaWQifX0=--f444d614c3e0941b879a6ff4e143d2503839e486/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsiZGF0YSI6eyJmb3JtYXQiOiJqcGciLCJyZXNpemVfdG9fbGltaXQiOls3MjAsbnVsbF19LCJwdXIiOiJ2YXJpYXRpb24ifX0=--c9426325207613fdd890ee7713353fad711030c7/3721_717.jpg)
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